Cocktails & Popcorn: The Tale Of The Bribery Of The Michigan Attorney General Campaign - Ukrainian Hackers, Dana Nessel & MDP Legal Geniuses

The Celestial Goddess of the Woodshed graciously genuflects in the presence of Dana Nessel, for this is pure, unadulterated art.

Wherever did these gentlemen came up with the idea of buying up campaign domains, in advance, then selling them to the campaign?

I know someone else who bought up campaign domains, but I am pretty sure it was done as super secret way of just identifying the Meanies who were mean to my Sweetie because everyone was stealin'.

Back in the day, many, many moons ago, the Negro Spirituals used to contain encrypted messages of justice.

Many, many more moons ago, there was the Rood.

Hidden messages have always been contained in public speech when you are not allowed to freely speak to each other.

In the age of technology, where no one cares, one must perfect their art in order to make the heavens fall, one parked GoDaddy domain at a time.

It seems we are dealing with "Legal Geniuses" (trademark pending), as it takes a keen mind to execute a bribery operation where the target was the campaign of the Michigan Attorney General.

Dana has been busy, busy, busy!

https://casetext.com/case/maher-waad-an-individual-marks-one-car-rental-corp-v-willis-2

Lawsuit: Nessel campaign consultant accused of extortion

A text message photo sent by Dmitry Movsesyan in 2019 shows
him driving Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel,
which her office said happened in 2017.

Lansing — An explosive new federal lawsuit accuses a former campaign consultant for Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel of attempting to extort a company that Nessel’s office is fighting over consumer complaints.

Dmitriy Movsesyan of Oakland County, who disputes the claims, allegedly cited his relationship with Nessel while offering his assistance to Executive Car Rental, intervened in the dispute without the company’s authorization and demanded $9,500 from owner Maher Waad.

In a series of texts that stretched several months, Movsesyan sent Waad a picture of Nessel in his car, boasted of his relationship with the attorney general, contacted her office purporting to represent the company and said he had discussed the business with Nessel, according to court filings.

The suit filed by Waad also accuses Movsesyan of hijacking Executive Car Rental’s Google business pages after boasting of his connection to an “underworld network” of Ukranian computer hackers, who he claimed had manipulated email accounts during the 2018 election to benefit Nessel.

Attorney general spokeswoman Kelly Rossman-McKinney called the alleged campaign email manipulation claim “horseshit” with no basis in truth. Nessel has not seen Movsesyan since she was elected or discussed with him “any matter” the Department of Attorney General is handling, she said in a subsequent statement.

“We are deeply concerned that Movsesyan apparently tried to use his brief encounters with AG Nessel to persuade Executive Car Rental that he could have any impact on the department’s investigation of the company," Rossman-McKinney said.

Dana Nessel & William Isaac *Fat Ass* Robinson,
the inspiration of "Legal Geniuses" (trademark pending)

Reached by email Friday morning, Movsesyan told The Detroit News “there is no ‘extortion’” and said Waad “refuses to pay money owed for work performed.”

“Zero of this is true, especially any involvement of the AG,” Movsesyan said, calling Waad a “crook” who is trying to “dance around the complaints his customers filed against him.”

Movsesyan said he helped Waad “restructure his company, and he didn’t pay me once I realized that I will not attempt to influence the AG office in any way. I don't have that power, nor have I seen Dana Nessel since election night.”

Attorney Steven Haney, who is representing Waad and Executive Car Rental, said Mosesyan’s claims are not true.

“The evidence speaks for itself,” Haney said, pointing to the text messages filed in federal court. “They pretty much tell the story. Outright extortion on a level I don’t know if I’ve seen in 20 years as a lawyer.”

How controversy began

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The Attorney General’s office in January accused Executive Car Rental of violating the Michigan Consumer Protection Act and misleading customers, citing more than 400 complaints against the company and allegations it had withheld or delayed return of damage deposits.

The firm agreed to a voluntary assurance agreement with the Attorney General’s office in March that required it to take certain steps, but Nessel’s office in August alleged the company violated the agreement and served it with a notice of an intended lawsuit.

“The timing of the notice of suit creates a question of fact that defendant Movsesyan was correct in characterizing his conversation with Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel,” Waad’s attorney claims in the suit.

Movsesyan worked for Nessel’s campaign as a contract information technology consultant in 2017 from roughly September through December and again in April 2018, Rossman-McKinney said.

“Attorney General Nessel has not seen Movsesyan since she was elected nor has the Attorney General discussed with Movsesyan any matter the Department of the Attorney General is handling,” she said.

Waad founded Executive Car Rental in 2012 and now operates 16 locations in Michigan and Florida. It is one of the country’s largest independent car rental firms, according to the legal complaint, renting out more than 100,000 vehicles a year.

Movsesyan knew Waad from a past sales job, according to the suit, and texted the businessman in February. He sent a photo of himself wearing a Dana Nessel campaign T-shirt and told Waad to call him because “I may be helpful to you.”

The texts continued as Executive Car Rental attempted to resolve the consumer complaint dispute with the Attorney General’s office. In May, Movsesyan sent Waad a picture of himself in a car with Nessel, saying “oh look, it’s your favorite attorney general in my backseat.”

While the text appeared to suggest Movsesyan was with Nessel at the time, the photo was actually taken in the fall of 2017, said Rossman-McKinney. Movsesyan had driven Nessel to an event at Grand Valley State University because he wanted to take pictures to post on campaign social media accounts he had set up, she said.

The texts continued in June, when Movsesyan told Waad he was going to see Nessel. In July, Movsesyan sent an email to Assistant Attorney General Darrin Fowler describing himself as a chief marketing officer of the car rental company.

Tale of the texts

“Just spoke with my girl,” Movsesyan told Waad in a July 16 text message. “She is excited about (Executive Car Rental’s) commitment to deliver an honorable service to the residents of our great state.”

“Now you’re stuck with me,” he told Waad.

The lawsuit contends that any contact Movsesyan had with the Attorney General’s office was “without authorization and unbeknownst” to the company.

“At no time relevant was (Movsesyan) employed in any such capacity or authorized to make representations on behalf of the company,” Haney said in the filing.

But Movsesyan allegedly felt the company owed him money and was demanding a $9,500 payment, according to the suit.

“I will consider helping you navigate through the settlement you have made with the state as soon as the invoice is paid in full,” Movsesyan said in one text. “Better hope they don’t call me to testify.”

Waad's attorney told The News that Movsesyan was doing some "very minor" social media and marketing work for the company. Waad ended up paying him $3,000 “under duress and the threat of continued economic harm to the company," the suit claims.

Executive Car Rental accuses either Movsesyan or related hackers of taking over the firm’s business pages on Google, making “disparaging responses to consumer complaints” that appear to come from the owner and directing consumers to file complaints with Nessel’s office.

“Movsesyan engaged in systematic extortion of the plaintiffs, which culminated with him alleging to enlist the hacking services of the same Ukranians he suggested were involved in manipulating email accounts during the 2018 Michigan Attorney General Election for the benefit of Dana Nessel.”

Movsesyan told The News he had hired a friend in Ukraine to build a new website for Executive Car Rental.

"He is a Wordpress website designer and (couldn't) hack his way out of a paper bag," he said. "This whole suit is a joke."

The lawsuit requests a jury trial and seeks “compensatory damages” from Movsesyan, along with an order he relinquish all control over company domains and password protected accounts.

Dmitriy Movsesyan - Nessel Complaint by Beverly Tran on Scribd

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Cocktails & Popcorn: Michigan Attorney General Nessel v. Ukrainian Hackers - The Election Legal Saga Continues

"We're next because Elisa is getting an attorney!"

First, this happened....

Want To Meet A Fake Candidate: Dana Nessel For Michigan Attorney General

Then this happened....

Cocktails & Popcorn: The Tale Of The Bribery Of The Michigan Attorney General Campaign - Ukrainian Hackers, Dana Nessel & MDP Legal Geniuses

I wonder what shall happen next?

Nessel sues car rental company for failing to comply with settlement

Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel is suing a car rental company for continued violations of the state Consumer Protection Act roughly a week after the company accused Nessel’s former campaign consultant of extortion.

In a Friday statement, Nessel said Executive Car Rental breached its settlement with the department by failing to implement a pre-rental inspection procedure and continuing to charge and withhold deposits from customers.

Nessel had notified the company of intended action in January based on complaints from customers who said they were not being returned their $250 damage deposits. The company reached a $40,000 settlement with the department in March and promised to reimburse customers, stop charging rental deposits and implement an inspection process for rentals.

“Despite ECR’s agreement to change its practices, the company continues to use the same deceptive and illegal tactics that got it into trouble initially,” Nessel said.

The department filed a lawsuit Friday seeking an injunction and damages.

“Today, we are seeking to put an end to these practices and ensure no consumer is taken advantage of by this company again,” Nessel said.

The amount in dispute that seems to have prompted Friday's lawsuit is minimal, said Steven Haney, a lawyer representing Executive Car Rental. The company has made at least 10 attempts to meet in person with the Attorney General's office over the last few months and has been denied each time, he said.

Haney said he and his client were not surprised by Friday's lawsuit, given the extortion claim the company filed last week in court.

"This is exactly what we expected in retaliation for last week’s story," Haney said. "If this is the route they chose, then fine. We’ll see them in court.”

The lawsuit comes a little more than week after Executive Car Rental filed a federal lawsuit against Nessel’s former campaign consultant Dmitry Movsesyan, alleging Movsesyan used his relationship with Nessel to extort the company.

In the federal lawsuit, Executive Car Rental owner Maner Waad claimed Movsesyan cited his relationship with Nessel while offering to assist the company in the ongoing dispute. Waad also accused Movsesyan of emailing the Attorney General’s office without authorization and demanding a $9,500 payment for his information technology services.

Waad said Movsesyan commandeered the company’s Google business pages and bragged about his connection to an “underworld network” of Ukranian computer hackers who he claimed had manipulated email accounts during the 2018 election to benefit Nessel.

Movsesyan has denied Waad’s claims.

Nessel’s office said the attorney general has not seen Movsesyan since her election to  the office or communicated with him about any matter the department is handling. Further, Nessel’s spokeswoman said his claims of campaign email manipulation were crap and expressed concerns about his alleged extortion.

On Friday, Nessel’s spokeswoman Kelly Rossman-McKinney said the federal lawsuit in no way prevents the department from pursuing court action against Executive Car Rental.

“They’re being sued because they refused to adhere to the agreements they made,” Rossman-McKinney said. “We’re not going to sit back and not take action on behalf of consumers because someone filed a gratuitous baseless lawsuit.”

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Dana Nessel & Her MSU Email FOIA Transposable Model

You would think, as the Michigan Attorney General, Dana would know that in child welfare everything is a secret, protected by law, layered up through Public Private Partnerships, made up of fake ass child welfare NGOs, doing lots of trafficking tiny human stuff.

Geeze!

There is no right to FOIA when dealing with a federally contracted, foreign, sub recipient of federal funding, because there are no rights to a civil society in privatization.

DUH!

Then there are those FOIA Exemptions and Exclusions, particularly when dealing with anything with a cross and a kid.

Praise the lord.

If Dana can find a way of getting those emails, well, gosh golly, I believe we may have ourselves one of those transposable models I so much adore.

Nessel calls for MSU to release 6K emails to help state Nassar probe

Detroit — Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel told a room of journalists and members of the public that she is "deeply ashamed" that Michigan is the only state that exempts the governor, lieutenant governor and state lawmakers from Freedom of Information Act requests.

"We are not opening the doors to state government," Nessel said Saturday. "In fact, we are locking them with deadbolts, and then we are nailing boards across them, and then there’s a moat … that’s what FOIA feels like with our state government."

Attorney General Dana Nessel speaks to members of the public and the media at FOIA Fest, an event about the Freedom of Information Act, hosted by the Society for Professional Journalists at Wayne State University on Saturday.Buy Photo
Attorney General Dana Nessel speaks to members of the public and the media at FOIA Fest, an event about the Freedom of Information Act, hosted by the Society for Professional Journalists at Wayne State University on Saturday. (Photo: Kevin J Hardy / The Detroit News)

Nessel was the keynote speaker at a day-long festival focused on how to reform FOIA exclusions to the executive and legislative branches of government, developing a state ombudsman or independent commission for FOIA appeals, and reform excessive fees, delays and loopholes in the state's system.

Nessel, who took office in January, has called for more government transparency while noting Michigan's current FOIA restrictions.

"I can’t think of anything more important than to have the public have all the tools available to them and know how to get information," she said.

Kat Stafford, a reporter for the Detroit Free Press, introduced Nessel, saying the attorney general was invited to the FOIA Festival, hosted at Wayne State University by the Society of Professional Journalists, because she's been advocating the importance of government transparency for Michigan residents.

Current and former members of the The South End student newspaper at Wayne State University, which is funded by the university but is editorially independent, share difficulties of filing FOIA requests within their own campus and how they studied student press law after being restricted.

Nessel also used the event to take a few shots at the Trump administration, saying the lack of transparency in Michigan is nothing compared to what is going on at the federal level.

"While I am embarrassed on various levels for our lack of transparency in Michigan, but what’s happening in the federal government right now is absolutely unacceptable," Nessel said. "Without these constructs in place, it will be the end of America as we know it."

Nessel also addressed the investigation of John Geddert, a former USA Gymnastics coach who oversaw a Michigan club where multiple victims of sexual predator Larry Nassar trained, Nessel said her office continues to try to get documents Michigan State University has withheld under attorney-client privilege.

MSU initially withheld 7,500 documents under attorney-client privilege and it appears as though her office is not going to see 6,000 of those documents because the university has "fought this office every step of the way."

She called it disingenuous that MSU would ask for the attorney general's office to investigate and then refuse to provide the evidence they need.

"We’ve taken this as far as we can. To fully complete our investigation, we absolutely need to have those emails," she said. "I would ask the board of trustees to reconsider and provide us with those 6,000 plus emails so we can actually complete our investigation."

Beth Konrad, president of the SPJ Detroit chapter and adjunct professor at WSU, said the idea for Saturday's FOIA festival was aimed to build greater awareness and understanding of FOIA and Michigan's Open Meeting Act for better government transparency.

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Cocktails & Popcorn: Engler Has No Intentions Of Cooperating With Michigan Attorney General Nessel - Too Many Trafficking Tiny Humans Trust Funds At Stake

Dana is being very polite in seeking an interview with Engler for the simple fact that this is the same dance that went on in March 2019.

Engler knows there are watchful eyes upon him.

We shall see which side of history Dana wishes to be remembered.

Nessel, Engler 'at an impasse' over interview in MSU investigation

Mackinac Island — Attorney General Dana Nessel said her office is “at an impasse” with Michigan State University’s former interim president John Engler regarding an interview for Nessel’s investigation into the university Larry Nassar scandal.

Engler’s unwillingness to be interviewed about the university's handling of complaints against former sports medicine doctor Nassar will not stop Nessel’s office from completing its investigation, she said, “but we won’t have as much information.”

Nessel said she won’t put up with Engler’s “forum shopping” or excuses regarding his lack of availability for an interview.

“It’s not because he never comes to Michigan,” Nessel said. “It’s because he doesn’t want to be interviewed in a state where I have prosecutorial authority. He doesn’t want to be interviewed in a state where ... he can be held responsible in the event that he makes intentional misrepresentations.”

When contacted by The Detroit News Wednesday, Engler said he had a call on the other line and hung up. A request for comment sent to Engler’s lawyer was not immediately returned.

Nessel requested an interview with Engler in January around the same time the former governor resigned under pressure after a year at the helm of MSU. He had replaced former President Lou Anna Simon, who resigned in the wake of the scandal involving serial pedophile Nassar.

In April, Engler’s lawyer Seth B. Waxman said Engler had not been contacted by Nessel’s office since it cancelled a scheduled March interview in D.C. Nessel’s office has said it was only willing to meet with Engler in D.C. if he was unavailable in Michigan.

Engler has attended several MSU sporting events during that time period.

In March, Waxman objected to having Engler be interviewed by Christina Grossi, who is the lead assistant attorney general in the MSU probe. He argued that Grossi had "prejudged Mr. Engler's veracity and motives without ever talking to him" and wrote that Grossi demonstrated a "personal bias against Mr. Engler."

When university trustees urged Engler to meet with Nessel in an April letter, Waxman responded that Engler “at all times offered, and made himself available, to meet with the Attorney General’s Office.”

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"The Girls" v. "The Boys": Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel v. Archdiocese Of Detroit - Who Will Be The First To Talk About The Children's Trust Fund?

Michigan Attorney General v. Vatican

This, is so succulent a moment to me, I am in pure bliss.

What we have here is a delicious fantasy I have played out in so many fashions, but this one is spectacular.

The Michigan Attorney General has to investigate the Archdiocese of Detroit.

Yes, I have been transported back to a time when I decided to figure out why the Michigan Attorney General has allowed me to suffer for almost two decades when it comes to their nefarious operations in child welfare.

Yes, my dearies, I am the original source and I am about to push this as far as I can, because I have to prepare, you know.

I wonder if Dana has pulled my file, yet.

I have the largest file in the history of the State of Michigan Office of Attorney General, but hey, what do I know?

I know I have found fresh flesh for false claims of Medicaid fraud in child welfare.

I also know I was never afforded due process in a court of law.

Nessel warns Catholic Church: Let state investigate clergy sexual abuse

Michigan AG: "If an investigator comes to your door and asks to speak with you, please ask to see their badge and not their rosary"

Beverly Tran: "If Child Protective Services comes to your door and asks to speak with you, please ask to see their warrant and not their badge because they are no law enforcement"

Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel accused Catholic Church leaders of not fully cooperating with law enforcement, telling them to stop "self-policing" and allow state investigators to probe sexual abuse by clergy.

They are only doing what the State of Michigan does in child welfare.  Dana is new.  She will catch on, or maybe not.

Speaking Thursday at her first news conference, Nessel said she will continue the investigations into Michigan's seven Catholic dioceses launched under her predecessor, former Attorney General Bill Schuette. Schuette conducted raids in October at dioceses in Michigan that involved 70 police officers and 14 assistant attorney generals, Nessel said.

But will she go into the foster care and adoption contracts? How about Faith Based Funding Slush Funds? Trafficking Tiny Humans?

Nessel told victims of abuse and others to speak with state investigators rather than Catholic officials, expressing concern that nondisclosure agreements (NDAs) are being used to discourage victims of abuse to speak with law enforcement authorities.

Where are all the attorneys looking to make a name for themselves? I find it quite odd these massive law firms in Detroit refuse to lift a single finger when it comes to trafficking tiny humans in Michigan.  Well, not really.  Some are too ignorant to wrap their brains around the subject matter, some just want a paycheck, some just do not care.  Just ask the State Bar of Michigan.

"Stop self-policing" and let the state do its investigations, she said. "Our office is conducting a thorough investigation and it's important we be able to talk with any and all victims harmed by these egregious acts without the intervention of the church."

A thorough investigation entails the child welfare contracts, including the schools, residential institutions, child placing agencies and any faith based foster care situation because this sexual abuse is all funded by Medicaid.

"If an investigator comes to your door and asks to speak with you, please ask to see their badge and not their rosary," Nessel said. "And here's why that matters. Because many churches and diocese appear to be self policing and encouraging parishioners to report abuse to them so they can conduct their own internal investigations. We've heard many stories from victims who have been encouraged to take settlements and sign NDAs or nondisclosure agreements. And victims may believe that they cannot or should not report abuse to us because the church is going to handle it and simply put, that's just not true. Firstly, if you signed an NDA, you still have a right and I would say a responsibility to speak to law enforcement authorities. An NDA will not protect the church."

At least "The Boys" are being proactive.  "The Boys" are part of that arm of the Vatican who just so happens to coordinate operations such as NDAs. Dana does not know this because she has no clue how deep this is going to get. She would if she read my blog because you know darn well she will never, ever reach out to me on dealing with anything remotely relevant to child welfare in Michigan.

 Nessel was joined at the news conference by the head of Michigan State Police, Col. Joe Gasper, who echoed Nessel's remarks.

"I also want to echo your comments regarding the importance of reporting tips directly to law enforcement," Gasper said. "We take all leads seriously and it's critically important that we hear directly from you when you have information to provide."

Are you going to start taking seriously the screams of kids in the foster care system and directly report to law enforcement or shall we continue with that "hire a private attorney" response of your office when it comes to a private contractor in child welfare.  The Archdiocese of Detroit, and the rest of the state, have those cherished, private child welfare contracts.

More: 7 Catholic dioceses in Michigan searched by police in abuse investigation

More: Michigan AG Schuette opens Catholic priest sex abuse investigation

In response, the Archdiocese of Detroit issued a statement contesting some of Nessel's points, saying it wants to "clarify some of the broad generalizations made during today’s press conference."

The statement said: "The Archdiocese of Detroit does not self-police. We encourage all victims to report abuse directly to law enforcement. When we learn of an allegation of sexual abuse of minors, we immediately notify law enforcement authorities, in accordance with the agreements we have had in place with them since 2002..."

FUN FACT! I MAY HAVE BEEN A CATALYST IN THIS 2002 GRAND EPIPHANY OF "ENCOURAGING" REPORTING TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, WHICH IS STILL NOT A LAW, WHICH THEY STILL DO NOT REPORT

Ned McGrath, director of public affairs at the Archdiocese of Detroit, criticized Nessel's remarks about how investigators should have badges, not rosaries.

Yes, that was pretty pithy, but you have to give props where props are due.  That was a smackdown.

“The rosary is a treasured devotion of the Catholic Church," McGrath told the Free Press. "And it’s troubling to have it used as a punch line. Here’s hoping future statements show no additional disrespect.”

There actually was no disrespect. A badge has legal authority. A rosary is a tool of privatization.  Sorry, McGrath, your coup to completely take over the State of Michigan has yet to come to full fruition.  "The Girls" are on it!

The Archdiocese also took issue with Nessel's remarks on NDAs:

"Since 2002, the Archdiocese of Detroit has not entered into any nondisclosure agreements, unless specifically requested by a survivor of abuse, as required by the Catholic Church in the United States.

In addition, the archdiocese does not enforce any nondisclosure agreements signed prior to 2002 ..."

Nessel's remarks happen to come on the same day that Pope Francis kicked off a four-day summit at the Vatican to discuss the issue of sexual abuse among clergy. Michigan has about 2 million Catholics.

Timing is everything.  I wonder if Dana is going to cross over to the proper side of history and become a whistleblower?  Time will tell.

Michigan is one of more than a dozen states that launched investigations after a report released last year by the Pennsylvania Attorney General showed extensive abuse by priests and cover-ups by Catholic leaders.

Nessel said they have received 300 tips so far and are reviewing hundreds of thousands of pages of documents.

What about the contracts?

Nessel compared the reaction of Catholic Church leaders to the reaction of leaders at Michigan State University to the sexual abuse of Larry Nassar.

"Oh, no she did not"!

"The clergy abuse investigation is jarringly similar to the MSU investigation in that both institutions when confronted with a public sex abuse scandal, publicly pledged their cooperation with law enforcement authorities, but it failed to deliver on those public promises," Nessel said. "And regrettably, it would seem as though these two powerful institutions care more about protecting their brand than the people they serve."

Hey Dana....if you look really closely, you will see the financial connections in the contracts.  Let me give you a hint on where to start ===> The Michigan Children's Trust Fund.  Can you say "DACA or DAPA"? I can.  You can, too, if you do the right thing for the public trust of the children.

Nessel said victims should contact law enforcement even if the statute of limitations to prosecute has ended.

There still are civil options for obtain justice....that is if you have money because you know no one wants to look at the false claims filed for Medicaid cost reimbursement of those child welfare contracts.

No money, no justice.

"We may not be able to charge every priest, but our office will be sending letters to the diocese when we find credible allegations, and we ask that the diocese step up and deal with these abusers and protect people from them when the statute of limitations keeps us from being able to do that ourselves, which is often the case, or frankly, when there are other unethical acts that are uncovered," Nessel said.

If you cannot charge every priest, meaning there are many who will walk, can you at least take a look at the contracts? How about the child welfare NGOs?

The Archdiocese said in response that "the state of Michigan’s mandated reporting laws have been in place for decades. Through the years, we have strongly supported expansions to the list, including the addition of clergy. The Archdiocese of Detroit regularly educates all mandated reporters of their duties to report sexual abuse or neglect of minors."

Mandated reporters are a limited group of individuals, under the law.  I do not feel like looking it up, but you can on the top right of the page, but clergy are not mandated reporters because the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops is a private, foreign corporation, registered as a UCC in Michigan, which means that the State Attorney General is too much of a little punk to take this matter to the proper jurisdiction to the ICC because what has happened to the children in these christian child placing agencies is nothing but a war crime of forced migration and torture of a child.

Nessel said her office has sent letters to parishes asking them to inform their members of the state's investigations.

Step it up and go out to the private, contracted child placing agencies like Bethany Christian, Wellspring, Orchards Children's Services and Samaritas and hold a full blown interactive with the Administration and Boards to let them know they have been put on public notice.  On second thought, if you do that, you will have to do the same with the all the other "non-faith based". Oh, well, it was just an idea.

She encouraged victims of abuse or those who may know about possible abuse to contact the state through its hotline. 

Can kids still in foster care report abuse?  That would be grounds to terminate parental rights of the Michigan Children's Institute Superintendent for being abused and neglected while under the legal guardianship and custodianship of the State.  Guess foster kids should just go back to praying they find a good pimp to rescue them from the aegis of the state.

The Archdiocese of Detroit said in its statement that when it "became aware of the Attorney General’s request for parishes to publicize the state’s tip line, we immediately offered to help our parishes facilitate the publication of that material."

Yup, the email was sent.

The Archdiocese of Detroit also said it "has not been asked by the Attorney General’s Office to stop its internal review process. These internal investigations are required under Church law, and their purpose is to restrict or remove from ministry anyone who has committed sexual abuse of a minor or vulnerable adult."

The act of defrocking or removing one from ministry is an act of exile from the law of the sea for justice to be served from the laws of the land for bearing false witness to their office of the children's trust.  Congress possesses a similar procedure of removing a member of the body from public office.  It is called impeachment, nullification, indictments in other jurisdictions, you know, due process.

During her news conference, Nessel also spoke about her investigations into the Flint water crisis and Michigan State University over abuse tied to Larry Nassar.

Did Dana say Sparrow?  I missed that.

Col. Gasper of Michigan State Police said "we are committed to seeking justice for all the victims in the cases and we were also equally committed to ensuring that we conduct a thorough and proper investigation."

In its statement Thursday, the Archdiocese of Detroit also said:

"Since the Attorney General’s investigation began, the Archdiocese of Detroit has not received notification from that office regarding credible accusations against any of our priests. Should we become aware of such a complaint, we will act immediately."

To listen to Nessel's remarks during the news conference, click here for the livestream. 

To read the full response from the Archdiocese of Detroit to the Michigan Attorney General's remarks, click here.

Contact Niraj Warikoo:nwarikoo@freepress.com or on Twitter @nwarikoo

To report abuse

The information below is from the Michigan Attorney General on how to report abuse in the Catholic Church. 

Call the investigation hotline at 844-324-3374 (8 a.m.-5 p.m., Monday-Friday) or send information by email to aginvestigations@michigan.gov.

click here 

for a form that the state says allows you to be anonymous in submitting tips.

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JUDICIARY: Hearing On Jobs, Justice & Peace - Without Once Saying His Name

The Committee addressed qualified immunity by resurrecting the Second Amendment of the right to keep and bear the arms of the United States and the respective States which issues the licenses.

With great discernment, the Committee amazingly addressed the legacy of Conyers, without once saying his name, or the fact that he, as Chairman Emeritus of Judiciary, was denied due process, assassinated by blasphemy.

Absolutely amazing to witness the soulless execute such a bipartisan task.

Nessel calls for public database of Michigan's problem police officers

Detroit Police Chief James Craig speaks after officer Waldis Johnson's funeral Detroit Free Press

LANSING – The public could access a statewide database of problem police officers under a set of reforms put forward Tuesday by Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel.

Nessel said in a news release she wants the Michigan Commission on Law Enforcement Standards to create a police misconduct registry of verified claims of abuse or other misconduct made against police officers in Michigan.


The proposed registry is part of a seven-point plan Nessel released amid nationwide discussions about police reform in the wake of the Memorial Day death of George Floyd, a Black man who died during an arrest by Minneapolis police.

Frank Guido, general counsel for the Police Officers Association of Michigan — a union representing more than 12,000 officers in more than 300 local police and sheriff departments — said he is OK with some of Nessel's proposals, two of which he said are already in place, but he has concerns with others.


As for the public database, how would misconduct be defined? Guido asked. Also, "is this a requirement that is appropriate for all government employees?" or would only police officers be singled out, he asked.

The Michigan Commission on Law Enforcement Standards sets professional standards in education, selection, employment, licensing and funding in law enforcement and criminal justice in Michigan. Last week, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer announced she was adding four seats to the commission — which has been dominated by law enforcement representatives — to give it a greater community voice.


Nessel said that in 2016 the commission began requiring that law enforcement officers be licensed. But she said the commission "lacks sufficient authority to oversee law enforcement professionals and to revoke the licenses of police officers who demonstrate poor moral character or violate the public trust."

More: Michigan State Police graduates another school of troopers — with only 4 Black recruits

More: Whitmer: Require police to intervene if they see officers use excessive force

The measures she announced Tuesday are "the first step toward implementing positive change in our criminal justice system," Nessel said.

In addition to the database, Nessel called for:

Amending the Public Employee Benefits Forfeiture Act so that officers forfeit their retirement benefits upon conviction of a felony related to misconduct while on duty. 
Authorizing the commission to suspend or revoke a license when an officer engages in certain misconduct.
Requiring police agencies to maintain all disciplinary records of a police officers in their personnel files.
Requiring police agencies to report use of force data, with information about the civilians' race, gender, disability, sexual orientation, gender identity, national origin, religion and age.
Creating an independent investigative and prosecutorial process for deaths resulting from police actions.
Requiring continuing education for officers as a condition of licensing and improving and standardizing policies and training related to conflict de-escalation, cultural awareness, and implicit bias.
The public registry of problem officers would be a departure for Michigan. Until 2018, when Public Act 128 of 2017 took effect, even Michigan police agencies often could not review the circumstances under which police officers seeking employment left their previous departments. That had led to an issue with problem officers moving from one police agency to another, without their records following them.

“We must do more than just condemn bigotry and acts of excessive force committed by law enforcement officers. We must act,” Nessel said.

"Making meaningful and concrete changes doesn’t end here, but it’s crucial that we move first with measures which create better accountability and more transparency to the actions of law enforcement here in Michigan."

Guido said no officer should forfeit pension money they have contributed or earned for past service.

He also expressed concern about the proposed license suspensions. Guido wondered who would make such determinations and what due process protections would be in place.

"The concepts are far too broad," he said. "Not much job security for a law enforcement officer if every move is subject to someone claiming, after the fact, it was detrimental to the department — and now you lose your job because of knee-jerk reactions."

Maintenance of disciplinary records already occurs, as do independent investigations, and additional training is always welcome as long as the government funds it, Guido said.

"Reporting data is not objectionable as long as sufficient funds are provided out of the AG budget for personnel to do record-keeping," Guido said. "Also, the data should include information concerning the individuals that attack law enforcement."

In an executive order Tuesday, President Donald Trump called for creation of a national database of problem officers to track potential police hires with records of abuse. But unlike the registry proposed by Nessel, Trump's database would not be accessible to the public. Instead, data from the national database would be made anonymous and periodically made public, according to the order.


Until Whitmer's recent executive order, the Commission on Law Enforcement Standards had 19 members. The AG, the director of the Michigan State Police and the chief of police in Detroit are all members. The other 16 members are appointed by the governor, based on recommendations from various law enforcement groups, such as the Michigan Association of Chiefs of Police.

Whitmer's order adds as members the director of the Michigan Department of Civil Rights and three community representatives.

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Michigan Attorney General & Wayne County Prosecutor Team Up To Do What They Do - Cover Up Cover Ups - Flint Water Crisis Prosecution

This is quite the awkward prosecutorial situation considering the fact that the Wayne County Prosecutor's Office is under federal investigation with the Michigan Attorney General's Office in relation to the Flint Water Crisis and other stuff.

Oups j'ai dit une betise!

“Attorney General Nessel’s appointment of Fadwa Hammoud to serve as Michigan’s next Solicitor General is a brilliant choice. She is a visionary with an excellent work ethic. This is bittersweet for the Wayne County Prosecutor’s Office and me personally. Fadwa has served all Wayne County residents with integrity, distinction, and honor. We are sad to see her leave Wayne County service, but the citizens of the entire State will be the beneficiary of her fairness and impressive reputation.” Wayne County Prosecutor Kym L. Worthy

I wonder what the gals have planned for Andy Arena?

From a fan...

Flint continued cover up and continued expolitation has officially expanded hard core into Flint and the cover up will likely continue. Unless I can get my hands on the Master Plumber who oversaw the Flint water valve turn on to help answer some questions. I bet they have info they don't realize they have and may help get to the root of the real problem. There is some pipe that is supposed to drain from under Flint City that no one seems to know where it is...as in they kinda lost where it was, or ao they kinda say but don't say.....and many others have been dead headed (sealed off) and whatever is under there is likely nasty and PFAS contaminated. Kildee is asking now for PFAS to be added for Superfund cleanup sites. How convenient. Need to find that outlet to get water tested. Oh, and people allegely from Easter Seals allegedly have a contract with MDHHS in Flint because of water and are handing out what they say are psych meds without any official diagnoses.

Former Wayne County prosecutor to take lead on Flint water prosecutions

Fadwa Hammoud

The state’s new solicitor general will take lead on the state’s criminal cases related to the Flint water crisis, including the prosecution of involuntary manslaughter charges against two former high-ranking Snyder officials.

Attorney General Dana Nessel announced Tuesday Fadwa Hammoud’s appointment as solicitor general, making her the first Muslim Arab American to achieve that post in the country. Hammoud is a former lead attorney at the Wayne County Prosecutor’s Office.

Flint Special Prosecutor Todd Flood, who was appointed by Republican former Attorney General Bill Schuette, will report to Hammoud. He successfully convinced 67th District Court judges to bind over for trial former Health and Human Services Director Nick Lyon and former Chief Medical Executive Eden Wells on criminal charges related to 2014-15 Legionnaire's disease outbreak that killed 12 individuals and sickened at least 79 others.

 Schuette's personal supervision of Flood prevented him from engaging in the civil cases related to Flint, Nessel said. Both the civil and criminal cases have continued for years and cost taxpayers millions, she said.

“We don’t prescribe to the idea of prosecution for profit in this office,” Nessel said in a a statement. “I have worked closely with Ms. Hammoud as a prosecutor and trust her to make the right decisions and take the proper steps to ensure justice for the people of Flint. This department has spent millions of dollars on these cases, and our state residents deserve assurance that these cases are handled properly.”

On Tuesday, Flood praised Hammoud.

“Fadwa is a great person and an excellent lawyer who will serve the people of state and Flint very well,” Flood said. “I look forward to working with her.”

Schuette’s position overseeing Flood has remained empty since the turn of the year because Nessel was uncomfortable with the conflicts associated with the role, said Nessel's spokeswoman Kelly Rossman McKinney. Hammoud’s appointment allows Nessel to remain “above the conflict wall” by avoiding a direct role in either the criminal or civil cases.

“For now, (Flood) will report to the solicitor general,” Rossman McKinney said. “She’ll be in court with him tomorrow to watch, listen and learn.”

Special prosecutors will be in 67th District Court for the resumption of the preliminary exam of Patrick Cook, a Department of Environmental Quality water treatment engineer who is accused of misconduct in office, conspiracy to engage in misconduct in office and willful neglect of duty for allegedly manipulating a Lead and Copper Rule report on the levels of lead in Flint’s water.

There have been talks about a possible plea deal for Cook.

In early January, Nessel asked Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy to review the Flint criminal cases, and Worthy was expected to make recommendations regarding the future of the prosecution, including Flood's future as special prosecutor.

Hammoud’s appointment to the case does not interrupt the review of the prosecutions being conducted by Worthy, Rossman McKinney said. The review is ongoing and could influence the future of the cases and who leads them, she said.

Since Worthy and Hammoud worked together in the Wayne County Prosecutor’s Office, “there’s a trusting relationship already established,” Rossman McKinney said.

Worthy declined additional comment on the review, but praised Nessel’s appointment of Hammoud to the cases, calling it a “bittersweet” moment for the Wayne County Prosecutor’s Office.

“Attorney General Nessel’s appointment of Fadwa Hammoud to serve as Michigan’s next solicitor general is a brilliant choice,” Worthy said in a statement. “She is a visionary with an excellent work ethic.”

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Michigan, Priests & Its Christian Child Welfare Network

There is a network.

There is a culture.

It operates in child welfare.

It is called christianity.

Praise the lord.

5 recently charged priests reported to Michigan police, prosecutors years ago

Correction: An earlier version of this story misstated the length of the statute of limitations for second-degree criminal sexual misconduct.

After resigning from Holy Redeemer Parish in 2002, the Rev. Vincent DeLorenzo  penned a letter to Burton parishioners admitting to “inappropriate sexual contact with a minor” in the 1980s.

The former Flint area priest was removed from ministry and moved to Florida a little less than six years later, free of charges because the statute of limitations barred prosecution.

More than 17 years later, DeLorenzo was arrested in the backyard of his Summerfield, Florida, home on remarkably similar allegations by the Michigan attorney general's office.

On May 23, police collected the 80-year-old priest's medicine and took him to the Marion County Sheriff’s Office, where he waived his Miranda rights and allowed police to search his phone, according to a Michigan State Police report obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request.

DeLorenzo is one of at least five priests charged this year with sexual misconduct in Michigan who had been reported by the state's dioceses to police or prosecutors years before — in some cases multiple times by multiple victims. The other priests are the Revs. Neil Kalina, Jacob Vellian, Brian Stanley and Timothy Crowley.

But, in large part, charges earlier weren't filed because the statute of limitations had run its course and barred prosecution, or because a victim was unwilling to file a police report,according to a Detroit News review of government documents.

Each of the priests charged by Nessel had been removed from ministry in Michigan by their dioceses based on the allegations months or years prior to being charged.

Some of the latest misconduct charges are possible due to new allegations or old victims who finally filed a police report. In others, Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel used a legal provision to charge priests whom local prosecutors believed couldn’t be prosecuted due to the passage of time.

The state has "an obligation, a responsibility and the authority" to pursue justice in the clergy abuse investigation, Nessel said in a Tuesday statement.

"One of the most important things our office can do for crime victims — especially those victims who have suffered in silence and have been ignored for so long — is to honor them and their stories by aggressively continuing to pursue the investigation begun by my predecessor," Nessel said.

The new prosecutions don’t mean that Nessel’s office is assured of succeeding. Charges in one case have been dismissed, though Nessel’s office plans to appeal. The sometimes decades-old sexual assault allegations remain complicated cases to prosecute, experts said.

"The passage of time is more likely to hurt the prosecution than the defendant," said Richard Friedman, a law professor at the University of Michigan Law School. "Time is going to tend to create doubt."

Nessel in May charged DeLorenzo with six counts of sexual misconduct related to allegations dating back to 1995. A lawyer for DeLorenzo didn't return a call for comment.

Vincent DeLorenzo

The priest had faced allegations before.At least seven times an alleged victim or the Diocese of Lansing had reported sexual misconduct allegations against DeLorenzo to prosecutors since 2002, according to a spreadsheet and emails from the Genesee County Prosecutor’s Office.

Documentation of the reports were found in county archives after the prosecutor's office told The News in May that it had only received two prior notifications of allegations against DeLorenzo in 2018 and 2019.

Victims' names on the earlier reports reviewed by The News were redacted out of privacy concerns, so it is difficult to know whether they are the same people whose allegations led to eventual charges from Nessel’s office.

Nessel's office confirmed that one of the three alleged victims involved in her office's case against DeLorenzo is believed to have been reported by the diocese to the Genesee County Prosecutor's Office in 2018. At that point, the attorney general's investigation was gaining speed and the complaints were referred to Michigan State Police and Nessel's office.

Stopped limitations clock
DeLorenzo, Kalina, Vellian and Crowley all were charged on decades-old allegations that would usually be barred by the statute of limitations, but are fair game for prosecution through a provision in the state’s sexual assault law.

Called tolling, the provision stops the clock on the window of time in which a person can be charged after an alleged sexual assault, which was a six-year window up until 2001. In the priests' cases, the pertinent statute of limitations clock paused as soon as they left the state after an alleged assault.

DeLorenzo was charged in May with three counts of first-degree criminal sexual conduct and three counts of second-degree criminal sexual conduct on allegations that he fondled and raped a boy who attended primary school at Holy Redeemer in Burton between 1995 and 1999. He faces life in prison if convicted.

DeLorenzo's alleged assaults of the boy still fall within the statute of limitations, Nessel's office said, because the state law was changed in 2001 to eliminate a statute of limitations for first-degree criminal sexual conduct. The shift was made within the prior six-year statute of limitations window, her office said.

Nessel’s office is using tolling for the second-degree criminal sexual conduct charges against DeLorenzo because the 2001 changes for second-degree only extended the statute of limitations to 10 years. The window was extended to 15 years in Michigan last year.

A 2002 allegation investigated by police did not result in charges because of the statute of limitations, and a 2003 allegation was not charged because prosecutors weren't sure they could meet the burden of proof, according to the Genesee County Prosecutor's Office and Michigan State Police documents.

In three cases between 2009 and 2016, the prosecutor’s office noted the absence of a police report they could review to consider charges, according to a database prepared by the Genesee County Prosecutor's Office. In nearly all of those cases, the prosecutor’s office highlighted concerns about the statute of limitations.

A 2018 report was investigated by the State Police, the prosecutor's office said, and a 2019 case involved a person who had died nearly a decade earlier.

Between 2005 and 2017, the Genesee County Prosecutor's Office received no official police report regarding an allegation against DeLorenzo, said former Deputy Chief Assistant Prosecutor Randy Petrides, a 38-year employee who served as chief assistant to Prosecutor David Leyton from 2005 through 2017.

Even if a victim eventually filed a police report, the statute of limitations remained a concern, he said.

"That was in the back of mind," Petrides told The News. "...But that is a final decision made if and when we get an investigation. We never got one.”

If Nessel’s office was able to find a way to still charge the old cases, “more power to them,” he said.

“We did not have a sense that Fr. DeLorenzo had left the state for a long enough time to toll it,” Petrides said. “We were not aware that he had left the state at all.”

The strict limits on the time frame during which a person must be charged after an alleged assault exist because of the difficulty in proving a case with old evidence, deceased witnesses or limited recall, said UM's Friedman.

The time frame was eventually extended for sexual assault in part to account for the factors that might keep a young victim from reporting, especially in a case involving an authority figure or a repression of memories, Friedman said.

While the burden remains heavy on prosecutors in older cases, the changes in law create a legal environment more "hospitable" to those challenges, he said.

"I don’t think any of these changes make prosecution more complicated; they make prosecutions possible that wouldn’t have been possible otherwise," he said.

Crowley case challenges
Charges against three other priests involving tolling remain in litigation. In October, Ann Arbor District Judge Joseph Burke dismissed charges against Crowley, ruling that the statute of limitations did not apply because the incident that would have fallen within the statute of limitations happened after the boy had turned 16.

Kalina is scheduled for a competency hearing later this month, while Vellian remains in India as the attorney general’s office works toward extradition.

Crowley’s case ran into issues. Burke dismissed eight criminal sexual conduct charges against Crowley because he ruled the six-year statute of limitations had expired before Crowley moved out of state. Nessel’s office is appealing.

Alleged assaults occurring within the six years prior to Crowley’s departure had taken place after the alleged victim turned 16, the judge ruled. But acts that happened prior to the victim’s 16th birthday occurred more than six years prior to Crowley’s departure from the state.

In 1993, the Diocese of Lansing paid a $200,000 settlement to the alleged victim in Crowley’s case and required the man to sign a non-disclosure agreement. Crowley was removed from ministry in the Diocese of Lansing, but went on to serve as chancellor for the Archdiocese of Anchorage in Alaska, despite warnings from the Michigan diocese.

Timothy Crowley

When church protocol changed in 2002, Crowley was removed from the Anchorage archdiocese and reported to the Washtenaw County prosecutor’s office.

The statute of limitations had not expired on the case the office received in 2003 and the prosecutor’s office likely would have charged Crowley at that time, Washtenaw County Prosecutor Brian Mackie said.

But the charges eventually were denied, according to a memo from the prosecutor's office, because the alleged victim “adamantly opposes criminal prosecution.”

“The victim’s reasons for opposing prosecution are compelling, and these charges are therefore denied,” the memo said.

A primary concern of victims of sexual abuse, especially young ones, is the fear that they won't be believed, especially if it involves a member of a faith community or a male victim, said Rebecca Campbell, a professor of psychology at Michigan State University. 

"They are often not believed, or blamed for not being able to prevent this," said Campbell, who focuses on the psychological impact of the criminal justice system on sexual assault victims. "There’s still tremendous stigma and shame for male survivors to disclose.”

Failure to report
The unwillingness of victims to come forward also played a role in delayed prosecutions. The Genesee prosecutor's office noted the absence of a police report on three separate cases reported by the Diocese of Lansing. 

Two incidents allegedly occurred at St. Pius X in Flint Township in the 1970s and 1980s and were reported to the diocese in 2009 and 2013. But the Flint Township Police had no police reports on the allegations, according to an open records request. It was unclear whether the third victim ever made a police report.

In a more recent instance in 2017, an alleged victim of Stanley first approached the Diocese of Kalamazoo and then asked the diocese to relay his concerns to the Coldwater Police Department.

Brian Stanley

The victim, who was one of at least three individuals to report being wrapped in plastic wrap or otherwise restrained by Stanley, did not return calls from Coldwater police. The police department ended that specific investigation without interviewing Stanley because the alleged victim “was un-cooperative and refused to contact me after several calls.”

That report had been preceded by one to the Otsego Police Department that did not result in charges and followed by another to Coldwater police in August.

Nessel's office charged Stanley with false imprisonment, and the priest has pleaded not guilty. His lawyer, Michael Hills, declined to comment further because of ongoing litigation.

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Will Nessel Interview Engler About Trafficking Tiny Humans & Other Bush-Clinton Operations At MSU?

Will Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel interview Engler about his "activities" in privatizing those child welfare contracts in Medicaid fraud...

...or his real estate development projects of his buddies...

...or the Michigan Children's Trust Fund...

...or Bush Haiti Foundation...

...or the Clinton Foundation...

...or that pesky attorney-client privilege...

...or the blackmail...

....let me stop there, because I want to watch to see what Dana does...

Michigan's attorney general looks to interview Engler about MSU

Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel has directed her MSU investigation team to interview former Michigan State University Interim President John Engler, her office said Thursday.

Nessel made the request Monday before Engler stepped down from the post amid controversy. Her office had already contacted MSU to try to set up the interview and the attorney general is “counting on him to honor the request despite his resignation,” said spokeswoman Kelly Rossman-McKinney.

Officials have already contacted MSU attorneys to try to set up the interview and Nessel is “counting on him to honor the request despite his resignation,” said spokeswoman Kelly Rossman-McKinney.

Nessel was concerned by the “lack of transparency and overall cooperation” by MSU under Engler, Rossman-McKinney said.

Engler, citing the advice of counsel, has refused to hand over certain MSU documents in the Larry Nassar investigation based on client-attorney privilege. Nassar had sexually assaulted young women for decades while an MSU and USA Gymnastics doctor, and is effectively serving a life sentence in prison.

MSU spokeswoman Emily Guerrant said Thursday she just became aware of the request to interview Engler.

"I don't see why he wouldn't comply with it," Guerrant said, adding that Engler is in Texas for the interment of his father-in-law.

Engler submitted a letter of resignation on Wednesday that the Board of Trustees accepted on Thursday.

During last Friday's editorial board meeting with The Detroit News, Engler said a judge has reviewed all of the documents and there are 29. If the judge rules that MSU should turn them over, Engler said the university would “absolutely happily to turn those over and privilege is protected for those.”

“There is no issue in those documents, but we are sure resisting the idea that insurance companies should get access to that information at a time when we are in litigation with them,” Engler said.

Nessel’s office is continuing its investigation of MSU and its role in the Nassar scandal after special prosecutor William Forsyth stepped down when his contract expired at the end of last year. Forsyth had been appointed by former Attorney General Bill Schuette.

Christina Grossi is the lead assistant attorney general in the ongoing probe and is working with chief investigator David Dwyre.

The investigation under Forsyth led to criminal charges against former President Lou Anna Simon along with Kathie Klages, the former head MSU women's gymnastics coach, and William Strampel, the former dean of the College of Osteopathic Medicine. Simon's preliminary hearing will be held later this month.

Forsyth's December report on the investigation noted the university had repeatedly stonewalled the investigation "it pledged to support."

“Given the change at MSU,” Nessel’s office may approach the university again for documentation that had previously been withheld during the investigation, Rossman McKinney said. She said Nessel’s office is “hoping for a renewed commitment to transparency.”

The change in the interim presidency and changes in the board membership “provides an opportunity to revisit some of our earlier requests that were denied or argued as privileged or we were told they didn’t exist,” Rossman McKinney said.

When asked whether MSU’s general counsel Bob Young, an Engler appointee, would prove a roadblock to that task, Rossman McKinney said she couldn’t speculate.

MSU Trustee Joel Ferguson on Thursday denied allegations that MSU stonewalled the investigation and said the university has cooperated throughout the process. He said each trustee cooperated when interviewed by investigators.

“This is Forsyth giving a rationale of why he couldn’t find anything on us,” Ferguson said. “It’s a nonissue.”

Ferguson said the university has withheld just 29 documents, which are being reviewed by a judge. Rossman McKinney said the university initially withheld or redacted 7,651 documents.

The university voluntarily released 1,000 documents after Attorney General Schuette's office challenged the denial in court. Of the remaining 6,651 of the documents, 177 were ruled not privileged and went to the attorney general.

MSU objected to the release of 29 of the 177, keeping them tied up in court longer. 

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"The Girls" v. "The Boys": Engler Demands Subpoena, Nessel Ignores Trafficking Tiny Humans In Her AG Office, Get To Know Seth Wexman

In the spirit of fuchsia...

John Engler to AG's office: Unless you recuse yourself, I'm not doing interview with investigators

Former Michigan governor and former MSU
interim president John Engler, right, and Peter Secchia
sit courtside during the second half of the Michigan State,
Michigan basketball game on Saturday,
March 9, 2019, at the Breslin Center in East Lansing. 

Former Michigan State University Interim President John Engler will not sit for an interview with investigators from the Michigan Attorney General's Office because he believes the office is biased against him.

Well, yeah, duh!

"What has become clear is the ethical standards and objectivity required for the conduct of an investigation are inapplicable to your approach to Mr. Engler," says a letter sent Wednesday by Engler attorney Seth Waxman of Dickinson Wright to the AG's office. The letter was sent to Michigan Assistant Attorney Christina Grossi, who has been running the case for Attorney General Dana Nessel. "You have prejudged Mr. Engler’s veracity and motives without ever talking to him. You have launched unfounded attacks and besmirched Mr. Engler. ...

"Your conduct diverges so drastically from the most basic principles of fairness, justice and what is right that you have undermined the integrity of your own investigation, which may be a result of your lack of experience handling criminal prosecutions (this being your first), let alone a high-profile criminal investigation. Your actions also form a claim of prosecutorial misconduct and constitute grounds for your immediate recusal from the investigation."

Nessel could not be reached immediately for comment.

Damn! Dems* fightin' words. (*pun intended).

Dana is supposed to be nice when it comes to due process, not bully pulpit proselytizing political partisanship. It is called due process, like starting with a letter, then a subpoena.  You must document the process.

More on freep.com:

AG Dana Nessel: John Engler dodges my investigators, but finds time for basketball games

Michigan Attorney General investigating Perles' resignation from MSU board

Engler's letter came one day after Nessel sent a letter to MSU Board Chairwoman Dianne Byrum claiming Engler was ducking her investigators and saying he wasn't able to meet with investigators in Michigan, despite attending home MSU basketball games.

Waxman's letter disputes that. Waxman says on March 4, the two sides finalized a meeting for March 28 in Washington, D.C., where Engler has worked in business leadership roles after serving as Michigan governor.

Well, if I were Dana, and I was in D.C. to meet with Engler, what I would do is to contact federal investigative authorities to see if I could possibly do a conjugal collaborative, but then again, I guess it would be awkward to work with those individuals if they were investigating me and "The Girls", but, hey, what do I know, I am not the State Attorney General.

"Nevertheless, based on no action or statement by Mr. Engler, you claim that he has a

Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel speaks during a press
briefing on her office's investigation into the Larry Nassar scandal
at Michigan State University on Feb. 21, 2019 

'brazen disregard' for the investigation and was not acting in 'good faith,' among other libelous statements," the letter from Waxman says. "Mr. Engler agreed to the interview, that interview date is nine days away, and there is nothing more a witness can do before meeting voluntarily and answering questions."

The letter claims the two sides had also agreed that Engler was not a target of the investigation.

That is because if she targets Engler, she is going to have to target all "The Girls".

Nessel, a Democrat, said in her Tuesday letter she was shocked to learn that Engler was sitting courtside with promiment MSU donor Peter Secchia during MSU's basketball game with the University of Michigan. She said her office had been told Engler, a Republican, wasn't going to be in Michigan.

Sometimes, plans change.

There could be a reason Engler doesn't want to be interviewed in Michigan, Nessel said in her letter.

"...  an individual who interviews in another state is subject to different laws and processes for purposes of the interview. For example, the laws in Washington, D.C., related to intentionally lying to a police officer in the course of an investigation are not as strong as in Michigan."

That is why Dana should do the conjugal collaborative, but she will not.  That would be self-incrimination. Messy.

Engler often in Michigan

Waxman's letter Wednesday disputed that.

Seth Wexman

"Your outrage about Mr. Engler’s travels is similarly surprising and misplaced. Since early February 2019, I have been communicating with you about making Mr. Engler available for a voluntary interview," Waxman's letter said. "At no time did I represent that Mr. Engler would not travel to Michigan as we discussed scheduling. Mr. Engler owns a home in Michigan. He has family in Michigan. It stands to reason that he would and does travel to Michigan when his schedule permits doing so.

"There has been no effort to hide that on two occasions Mr. Engler traveled to Michigan on weekends to see Michigan State University basketball games. Yet, you scurrilously allege that Mr. Engler somehow acted improperly by attending those events, as if he attended in disguise. He is not a criminal defendant. He is not under the supervision of a court. You penalize and criticize Mr. Engler for exercising his unrestricted right to travel and, as do hundreds of millions of Americans, enjoy college basketball games."

That is right.  There are no restrictions in travel for Engler in place.

Nessel's letter Tuesday said that "our offer to travel to Mr. Engler was contingent on Mr. Engler being unavailable to interview in the State of Michigan."

Engler was unavailable to interview.  He was busy at the MSU game...making plans....

"Finally, as if your false representations and strong-arming is not enough, you now threaten to use Mr. Engler’s lawful employment contract with Michigan State University against him.

".... what right does the Attorney General’s Office have to interject itself into and twist a contract between a private citizen and his employer into an illegitimate law enforcement tool? You not only appear to have acted beyond your authority, but also made yourself a witness to the broader investigation. That is a rare accomplishment for a prosecutor to subject herself to personal liability and become a witness."

Oh, SNAP! That was very eloquently stated. I like this cat. Seth used to be the U.S. Solicitor General. Seth works for WilmerHale, the same law firm Jeannie Rhee and Mueller hail. Seth did the SCOTUS Arizona Redistricting Law case that seems to question the people usurping the powers of the Legislature by stopping elected officials from privatizing.  This is a very interesting attorney client privilege situation to watch unfold.

Email exchange

The two sides have exchanged emails over the past months trying to schedule the interview, according to records obtained by the Free Press from a Freedom of Information Act request.

That included an email from Grossi to Waxman late Tuesday night saying if Engler wanted to voluntarily come in and interview in Michigan, he should contact the AG's office.

"Otherwise, there's no reason for you to contact me, certainly not to feign outrage or plead ignorance about the reason the interview was canceled," Grossi said in her email.

The two sides also disagreed about topics for the interview, with Waxman trying to get Grossi to confirm limited topics of conversation and questioning as suggested by an AG investigator and Grossi saying she wasn't going to agree to a script.

Hey, I have a few suggestions for a topic for the interview! Medicaid fraud in child welfare, the Children's Trust Fund and MEDC.  How about privatization of foster care and adoption, which brought in those Public Private Partnerships that funded you and "The Girls'" political campaigns for office...oups, j'ai dit une bétise!

The ongoing investigation has resulted in criminal charges against several MSU employees, including former MSU President Lou Anna Simon — whom Engler replaced. Simon is charged with lying to investigators.

Engler inherited the duties of office, and the breech of trust.  In order for Engler to bear witness to what happened at MSU, Nessel must also bear witness to what is still going on in the Michigan Office of Attorney General.

They shall eat each other alive, and I shall be intently watching.

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